only the chocobos! the other ones are wild animals and not really tame at all even when people have tried they're also great for hunts when they overpopulate
no offense clarke, but i wonder how many things you haven't seen until new amsterdam lucis works pretty strangely i guess even if it's 'lucis' everything but its capital city was under the nif empire's control for about 100some years war took away a lot of territory and people just tried to exist financially however they could best...
restaurants sure didn't work like that in insomnia
People will adjust and acclimate as best as they can. Were Lucis' leaders unable to reclaim their lands? Or did they leave them to deal with what happened?
long story short? the war pushed the king into a corner. the empire had a bigger army since they didn't use humans technically but robots so man power wasn't an issue, but in lucis magic had to be used by humans and the army's efforts were harder to accomplish there was a peace treaty on the works but the empire lied and didn't keep their end of the deal
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insomnia got attacked and destroyed, king regis was killed
[clarke has offered quite a bit about her experiences, and prompto's been mostly farting about chocobos and nonsensical things about his own world.]
it's not the same but i get a bit of what you mean when you say there wasn't a civilization to experience
Everything you've said is something I understand more than riding birds and going to restaurants.
[War. Kings dying. People breaking treaties as soon as they can. Clarke is all too aware of those things.]
A hundred years before I hit the ground, the world was destroyed. Nuclear bombs were set off. Not because of war, not because anyone wanted it. It just happened. Most of humanity died. But what remained was still prone to strife. To being at war. There were kings, and leaders without such names. There were people who tried to maintain power by passing on beliefs to the people they used to survive.
Nothing I knew before this was good. It's just that it was all I knew.
[he has no understanding of what nuclear bombs are, but he assumes that 'most of humanity died' means that it was something cataclysmic; world ending.]
it doesn't sound like a lot of good to be honest you were raised in space, right? does that mean that you and several others escaped the nuclear bombs?
[a lot of what she says would explain why she is kind but suspicious despite her best intentions. new amsterdam isn't just new in terms of civilization, but the intentions of the people, too. a world this calm, perhaps she never experienced it so.]
My great grandparents were astronauts. Unlike here, it's something that was hard to accomplish. There was only one case of "undesirables" going off into space. They were prisoners sent out to mine. Everyone else was a scientist, trying to help advance humanity. When the bombs went off, they were already living in space stations off the ground.
[So, that's that. It's why it's not glamorous or unique, or something that she fully understands giving the weight that other people give it.]
Does it bother you that I sugarcoated this before?
i can understand not wanting to mention it or skipping on worse details i've done the same too and it's not because i want to trick others or whatever
so... i get it
i'm glad your family was living in space when things went south cuz then i got to meet you and i can tell you're a survivor and you think smart about things
Part of it is that you did seem so excited about where I came from. I didn't want to show you what that meant. It wasn't easy up in the Ark.
[But had she returned there, Clarke knows she wouldn't be where she is now. Wanting to stay here. Dreading that there is the chance she won't have a choice about returning. Clarke's people don't need her anymore. She's certain about that.]
I can say that I'm confident that it won't always be about getting by here. I know that's not reassuring to everyone.
the prospect of space is still exciting you'd probably think the same about parts of lucis i've been to, even if it's not all that peachy and great
[he wants her to know that his excitement isn't in any way diluted despite her own experiences.]
...well, we gotta try, right? walk tall, do what's right
[it's what the king told noctis; it's what cor would tell them with a blunt look, back straight as a rod; it's what noctis would come to tell them, ten years into the future, before he sacrificed his life for everyone else's. besides, he knows of too many who have died for a cause and faced death without fear of it.]
[even if all the odds are against them, he wants to thrive among the thorns. he wants all of them to thrive.]
Truthfully? Actual cities are enough to make me wonder. At least you might have a chance of going up to the moon here. It's temporary, and it's unlikely that you'd get trapped there for good.
[Like her people did.]
There's something I said to someone back home. Someone I cared about. [Loved. Will always love. Lexa will never leave her, will never have less of an impact on who she is as a person now.] I told her that life is about more than just surviving. Sometimes it feels that way. It's easy to fall into that trap.
just getting by you mean? doing enough to make ends meet? it's true though focusing on the smaller things in life that bring joy and happiness that makes things all that much more worth it
so even when we're stuck in a place like this, with all its negatives and unknowns, and i miss people from home? there's still a lot of good going on for us in this place
No, it runs deeper than that. When all you think about is how to survive, you're willing to do anything to make that possible. You think about advancing yourself and the people around you to secure that outcome. Sometimes you only see the worst of it. You believe that the means always justify the ends: and in this case, the ends are survival. You can't only live that way if the world has forced you to do so, and I think ... even among ourselves here, we're risking a lot by failing to remember this. We put ourselves first a lot. We should, to some degree, but not if it makes us lose sight of the bigger picture.
But that just makes what you said all the more true.
i've never been in a position where i just have to figure out how to survive guess i'm pretty conceited and privileged in my upbringing in that way
but before coming here i lost everything to have everything again now, it's so... strange, but it's a gift in many ways a second opportunity even
from what you said, i'm guessing you were never in a position of privilege in terms of not having to think about survival huh? what with coming down from space to a planet that wasn't what it used to be when the bombs hadn't happened?
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god this tag is so long, incoming clarke griffin monologue
It's good that you see it as a second opportunity. You don't have to. There was a time when I thought someone here had come from a perfectly normal life. I envied her. I couldn't even fathom what that was like. For a little bit, I thought it might be the same for you. How you carry yourself—you know? I admire it.
You're right, though. I always had to think about it. On the Ark, crimes were always punishable by death. The people who committed them were floated, and if you were under eighteen, you'd be locked away in a separate part of the ship. The 100 [Canon namedrop, aw yeah!] of us that were locked away were chosen to go down. We were expendable. Systems on the Ark were failing, so they needed appropriate test subjects to send down. It was better that it was us than anyone on the Ark who hadn't been convicted for a crime. There was always the chance that once we turned eighteen, we'd be floated anyway.
That kind of thinking, that kind of behavior—the worst part is that once we got down, we had no choice but to hit the ground running. But we were just kids. So, there were only a few of us who did. Who could.
I had to take care of them. Even when everyone from the Ark finally came down, I couldn't stop. It took the "adults," so to speak, a long time to accept that there weren't any acceptable losses among our numbers. But it was us ... the "kids," we're the ones who learned about war down below. Learned from our mistakes in encroaching on the wrong territory, or trusting the people who offered us salvation from the atrocities outside in the woods that had grown after the radiation subsided.
I'm giving you context because in all of that, I started to justify a lot of my actions by survival. I used that line against someone else, but I was just as guilty of it myself. We all were.
Being here, it's like I have to relearn how to think about the world. I'm glad I have some friends helping me out along the way. And yes, the little things do help. Like donuts and fake coffee-based iced drinks.
i'm not gonna deny that my upbringing was a lot more privileged than most. i never had to worry about things like the war happening or anything like that, so... besides "normal" is subjective isn't it?
does floated mean... thrown into space?
[perhaps if prompto had been raised in niflheim, where the war was felt most strongly, or in any of the settlements across lucis that fell to the empire -- perhaps he could relate to clarke's experiences more strongly. still, although he paints a picture of privilege, he had his own struggles growing up: an obvious foreigner, with absent and neglectful parents, a constant encroaching loneliness. it's not the same, but whatever 'youth' and 'childish' demeanor he had upon leaving insomnia only to find out days later there was no home to return to and how much darker their trip was becoming after reaching altissia, it was very much like trying to make amends for something so much bigger than himself.]
[still, to this day, he feels the guilt of the clones that were made and used to fuel soldiers that were involved with bringing down insomnia, as if he is somehow at fault for their losses back home.]
it's not the same, but you were in a world that you thought you knew and were thrown into a whole new world with new rules and new perspectives something similar happened with me and my friends some things can be excused by survival...
but yours sounds like it was a really tough ride knowing that and making a change is really brave
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the other ones are wild animals and not really tame at all even when people have tried
they're also great for hunts when they overpopulate
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I have a bit of experience with it myself.
Well, more than a bit. It's nice to not have to do it, though.
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noct, iggy, gladio and myself
it's the only way we could get money
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some of them had food in them but... yeah
plus we used the money to repair the car or get money in restaurants!
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... Right?
[Insert meme image of Clarke-as-woman trying to do astrophysics, only in trying to figure out video game logic.]
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so...
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we help make it easier for them to get supplies but other times it's just like "there's a lot of sabertusks plz help"
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I never saw a restaurant before I got to this world. I've never mentioned that before, but it seems important to say now.
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lucis works pretty strangely i guess
even if it's 'lucis' everything but its capital city was under the nif empire's control for about 100some years
war took away a lot of territory and people just tried to exist financially however they could best...
restaurants sure didn't work like that in insomnia
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[Might as well come out with it.]
People will adjust and acclimate as best as they can. Were Lucis' leaders unable to reclaim their lands? Or did they leave them to deal with what happened?
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long story short? the war pushed the king into a corner. the empire had a bigger army since they didn't use humans technically but robots so man power wasn't an issue, but in lucis magic had to be used by humans and the army's efforts were harder to accomplish
there was a peace treaty on the works but the empire lied and didn't keep their end of the deal
[...]
insomnia got attacked and destroyed, king regis was killed
[clarke has offered quite a bit about her experiences, and prompto's been mostly farting about chocobos and nonsensical things about his own world.]
it's not the same but i get a bit of what you mean
when you say there wasn't a civilization to experience
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[War. Kings dying. People breaking treaties as soon as they can. Clarke is all too aware of those things.]
A hundred years before I hit the ground, the world was destroyed. Nuclear bombs were set off. Not because of war, not because anyone wanted it. It just happened. Most of humanity died. But what remained was still prone to strife. To being at war. There were kings, and leaders without such names. There were people who tried to maintain power by passing on beliefs to the people they used to survive.
Nothing I knew before this was good. It's just that it was all I knew.
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it doesn't sound like a lot of good to be honest
you were raised in space, right? does that mean that you and several others escaped the nuclear bombs?
[a lot of what she says would explain why she is kind but suspicious despite her best intentions. new amsterdam isn't just new in terms of civilization, but the intentions of the people, too. a world this calm, perhaps she never experienced it so.]
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[So, that's that. It's why it's not glamorous or unique, or something that she fully understands giving the weight that other people give it.]
Does it bother you that I sugarcoated this before?
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i can understand not wanting to mention it or skipping on worse details
i've done the same too and it's not because i want to trick others or whatever
so... i get it
i'm glad your family was living in space when things went south
cuz then i got to meet you and i can tell you're a survivor and you think smart about things
we're all trying our best while here, right?
[well. some of us. glances pointedly at ardyn]
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[But had she returned there, Clarke knows she wouldn't be where she is now. Wanting to stay here. Dreading that there is the chance she won't have a choice about returning. Clarke's people don't need her anymore. She's certain about that.]
I can say that I'm confident that it won't always be about getting by here. I know that's not reassuring to everyone.
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you'd probably think the same about parts of lucis i've been to, even if it's not all that peachy and great
[he wants her to know that his excitement isn't in any way diluted despite her own experiences.]
...well, we gotta try, right? walk tall, do what's right
[it's what the king told noctis; it's what cor would tell them with a blunt look, back straight as a rod; it's what noctis would come to tell them, ten years into the future, before he sacrificed his life for everyone else's. besides, he knows of too many who have died for a cause and faced death without fear of it.]
[even if all the odds are against them, he wants to thrive among the thorns. he wants all of them to thrive.]
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[Like her people did.]
There's something I said to someone back home. Someone I cared about. [Loved. Will always love. Lexa will never leave her, will never have less of an impact on who she is as a person now.] I told her that life is about more than just surviving. Sometimes it feels that way. It's easy to fall into that trap.
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[he'll keep dreaming big-]
just getting by you mean? doing enough to make ends meet?
it's true though
focusing on the smaller things in life that bring joy and happiness
that makes things all that much more worth it
so even when we're stuck in a place like this, with all its negatives and unknowns, and i miss people from home?
there's still a lot of good going on for us in this place
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But that just makes what you said all the more true.
We do have a lot of good going on here.
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i've never been in a position where i just have to figure out how to survive
guess i'm pretty conceited and privileged in my upbringing in that way
but before coming here i lost everything
to have everything again now, it's so... strange, but it's a gift in many ways
a second opportunity even
from what you said, i'm guessing you were never in a position of privilege in terms of not having to think about survival huh?
what with coming down from space to a planet that wasn't what it used to be when the bombs hadn't happened?
god this tag is so long, incoming clarke griffin monologue
You're right, though. I always had to think about it. On the Ark, crimes were always punishable by death. The people who committed them were floated, and if you were under eighteen, you'd be locked away in a separate part of the ship. The 100 [Canon namedrop, aw yeah!] of us that were locked away were chosen to go down. We were expendable. Systems on the Ark were failing, so they needed appropriate test subjects to send down. It was better that it was us than anyone on the Ark who hadn't been convicted for a crime. There was always the chance that once we turned eighteen, we'd be floated anyway.
That kind of thinking, that kind of behavior—the worst part is that once we got down, we had no choice but to hit the ground running. But we were just kids. So, there were only a few of us who did. Who could.
I had to take care of them. Even when everyone from the Ark finally came down, I couldn't stop. It took the "adults," so to speak, a long time to accept that there weren't any acceptable losses among our numbers. But it was us ... the "kids," we're the ones who learned about war down below. Learned from our mistakes in encroaching on the wrong territory, or trusting the people who offered us salvation from the atrocities outside in the woods that had grown after the radiation subsided.
I'm giving you context because in all of that, I started to justify a lot of my actions by survival. I used that line against someone else, but I was just as guilty of it myself. We all were.
Being here, it's like I have to relearn how to think about the world. I'm glad I have some friends helping me out along the way. And yes, the little things do help. Like donuts and fake coffee-based iced drinks.
:9
besides "normal" is subjective isn't it?
does floated mean... thrown into space?
[perhaps if prompto had been raised in niflheim, where the war was felt most strongly, or in any of the settlements across lucis that fell to the empire -- perhaps he could relate to clarke's experiences more strongly. still, although he paints a picture of privilege, he had his own struggles growing up: an obvious foreigner, with absent and neglectful parents, a constant encroaching loneliness. it's not the same, but whatever 'youth' and 'childish' demeanor he had upon leaving insomnia only to find out days later there was no home to return to and how much darker their trip was becoming after reaching altissia, it was very much like trying to make amends for something so much bigger than himself.]
[still, to this day, he feels the guilt of the clones that were made and used to fuel soldiers that were involved with bringing down insomnia, as if he is somehow at fault for their losses back home.]
it's not the same, but you were in a world that you thought you knew and were thrown into a whole new world with new rules and new perspectives
something similar happened with me and my friends
some things can be excused by survival...
but yours sounds like it was a really tough ride
knowing that and making a change is really brave
many just stick to their ways
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